6 hours ago
33 min
Alan and Autumn Ray - Learning To Be Married
Why doesn’t knowing better always lead to doing better in marriage? Rodney Olsen sits down with Alan and Autumn Ray, who have been married since 1970. They met in college, and Alan spent more than 27 years in the Air Force. They came to faith about a decade into their marriage, only to find that their old reflexes in conflict didn’t disappear overnight. Out of that struggle, they helped build Marriage Team, where over 85% of couples considering divorce choose to stay together.
In this honest and encouraging conversation, Alan and Autumn explain the playbook analogy, why couples so often talk past each other, and how practical skills such as listening, forgiveness and conflict resolution can transform a relationship. They also share the story behind their Rick and Jane Learn to Be Married series, offer wisdom on money, selflessness and safety in unhealthy relationships, and reflect on why commitment matters long after the early rush of love fades.









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